Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

topic posted Fri, May 16, 2008 - 11:04 PM by  Devon
If it's not obvious by the title....Spoilers









Well?

I thought it was a very good episode. Getting to see the Opera House scene again and some meaning behind it. How did he know to hold the weapons? Subliminal message from what's his name?




JUMP!!!


OH....and the trailer for the next one!?! Tigh Fraked the 6!!! Ha
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Devon
Washington
  • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

    Fri, May 16, 2008 - 11:35 PM
    Well, it was a pretty satisfactory episode, the first in a long time.

    I thought Six's address of the Quorum was probably the best. Her lingering on the subject of mortality being the key to development and growth harkened back to Lorien and Babylon 5. Specifically, Lorien's chat with Ivanova: "....that for there to be growth and change, life had to be short...." Without the knowledge that your time can end in a moment, there would be little desire to be act, to get things done. The Cylons have been a long time in learning that lesson; the long way is often the most painful.

    Interesting taht the Cylons are using a hybrid. I thought Athena said that project was abandoned.

    Where did the hybrid jump the ship to?

    And finally, there's something that the Colonials appear to be overlooking: since fleeing the Colonies, the idea has always been that the Promised Land is Earth, but the Cylons have been there every step of the way. Now, suddenly, it's believed by everyone that one group of Cylons know where Earth is. But that implies that the Cylons (or, some of them) have already been there. But doesn't that little factoid completely undermine the entire journey, not to mention invalidate the destination?
    • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

      Thu, May 22, 2008 - 12:28 AM
      That's the part I'm most anxious to see resolved. It's hard for me to believe the Final Five have been to Earth when they never even knew who they were, had careers back on Caprica for decades, etc.

      The Six's reflection of the sanctity of Life because of its finite nature caught my attention as well. And yes, it is through the adversity of their struggles with the Humans that they've learned to be more profound and in a general sense, more Human themselves. Now, in an alliance -imperfect as it may be- the Humans have a chnce to be changed by the Cylons into something a little more... what... sincere?

      I'm dying to know where the baseship jumped to.
  • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

    Sat, May 17, 2008 - 1:47 PM
    I appreciated the fact that we saw two things occur that would never be done in another series: Gaeta's leg amputation, and the fact that Athena shot Natalie dead. It ended on the sort of cliff hanger that you could have used for a season finale.
    • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

      Sat, May 17, 2008 - 3:14 PM
      This episode had to end on a cliff hanger (for the next two weeks), remember, there's no "seaon finale" - it'll be a series finally after all is said and done.

      On that note, it will be interesting to see how how the dynamic of the fleet will be now that Rosalind and Baltar are now "guests" of the rogue cyclons.

      * and damn did I feel the pain that Gaeta went through after his leg was cut off (great work by the actor and director).
      • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

        Sun, May 18, 2008 - 12:37 AM
        >> remember, there's no "seaon finale" - it'll be a series finally after all is said and done. <<

        yes! very important point for helping drive the pace and content of these last of the series. I don't expect they'll let me down, but I am sure others have already written the upcoming shows off already. Their loss!

        >> * and damn did I feel the pain that Gaeta went through after his leg was cut off (great work by the actor and director). <<

        Agreed Terrorbull! Damn that was brutal, and great acting. Hardcore that he was so unwilling to see his leg go, and wanted to remain conscious of the pain of that inevitable moment. That experience would sure to burn deep into nearly anyone's neurons, save but the most battle hardened (and even them perhaps, just look at the number of soldiers who return from war with PTSD...war is hell kids!)

        • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

          Sun, May 18, 2008 - 8:39 PM
          I know from my own experience why Gaeta would want to remain awake for that surgery, and also what a mistake it is. It's something that will absolutely burn itself into him and change the core of who he is. If his character goes the low route he'll become hard and Anders better watch his back. If he goes the high route ...well... I don't see how that would serve the story line, so I'm betting he goes gunning for Anders.
  • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

    Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:37 AM
    >How did he know to hold the weapons?<
    What's the very first thing we've seen every base star do as soon as they've made contact? They release swarms of raiders.

    This one had them dead to rights. even if the ship fired it's nukes it could have taken out half the fleet, but with raiders, too, I think only galactica could have escaped. But no shots fired, and not a single raider on draedus by the time the colonials had scrambled, launched and arrived.
    • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

      Mon, May 19, 2008 - 4:40 PM
      Of course, now we know that Tigh's one of them,,, kind of fits with his change of character, that he'd suddenly call it off..
      • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

        Thu, May 22, 2008 - 8:10 PM
        >> Of course, now we know that Tigh's one of them,,, kind of fits with his change of character, that he'd suddenly call it off.. <<

        yeah, Tigh is going through a major midlife crisis, that's for sure! His character has had a really interesting arc since the beginning...
      • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

        Fri, May 23, 2008 - 8:17 AM
        You think maybe he told them to hold weapons because he sensed Sam was on his way back? Or maybe it was empathy for the Cylons on the basestar?
        • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

          Fri, May 23, 2008 - 9:17 AM
          Lets see, meanwhile on Galactica, their likely pondering the possibility that the Cylon jump was a effort to take out about half their military capability -- as well takng out the cvilian government in one fell swoop?
          • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

            Fri, May 23, 2008 - 11:06 AM
            I was thinking the same thing Froz. I was also thinking that the basestar only seem to have a skelton cyclon crew (only the models we've seen and 2 centurians if I remember). Meanwhile, it looks like there's a full compliment of Marines and pilots from Galactica. I'm thinking they could easily take back the ship if need be.
            • Re: Season 4: Guess What's Comming to Dinner

              Fri, May 23, 2008 - 2:54 PM
              Certainly there's gonna be a massive conflagration on the basestar at the start of the next ep. There's jittery marines in enemy territory, obviously the hybrid freaked when she woke, probably because of the unprecedented numbers of HUMANS aboard, her initial response was of alert and she's very likely thinking there's an attack & is activating all defenses, which means the centurions (who've already proven to be automatic protectors of the hybrid) are gonna start blasting ass and taking names. Major crisis, no matter WHERE they jumped to. The crazy part will be that once the bullets stop flying and the blood settles, they're gonna figure out where they jumped to. And knowing the writers it will be a place that is A) totally unexpected twist of plot or B) brutally fucked-up place for them to end up or C) all of the above.

              Gonna be a long wait, these two weeks. I'm turning blue already.

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