An insight just occurred to me: one of the primary reasons for the Cylon attack on the Twelve Colonies was their belief that Cylons were a superior form of life. Somewhere back at the beginning Six or Boomer said something to the effect that the proof of the flaw in humanity was that humans were the only form of life that killed their own kind. Now, however, civil war has broken out among the Cylons; Natalie shot Six in the head; centurions are shooting skinjobs; and the Eights tried to entice Athena into leading a mutiny.
Sooner or later it's going to occur to the Cylons (probably Cavil, as he is the more spiritual of the lot) that Homo-Cylonus is no better than Homo-Sapiens. Cylons make mistakes, too, and probably even bigger ones. And if that is true, then how can they justify either their pursuit of the Colonials, or even the separation of the two races. Perfection or evolution is a mutual goal, so why not do it together?
Perhaps "humanity's end" which the hybrids spoke is the end of humanity as a solo species, and the beginning of a new one! The apocalypse which Kara is the herald of is the death of the doom which has hung over the fleet since the beginning of the series. A Laura Roslin saw on the ferry, death itself is only the beginning....!
Sooner or later it's going to occur to the Cylons (probably Cavil, as he is the more spiritual of the lot) that Homo-Cylonus is no better than Homo-Sapiens. Cylons make mistakes, too, and probably even bigger ones. And if that is true, then how can they justify either their pursuit of the Colonials, or even the separation of the two races. Perfection or evolution is a mutual goal, so why not do it together?
Perhaps "humanity's end" which the hybrids spoke is the end of humanity as a solo species, and the beginning of a new one! The apocalypse which Kara is the herald of is the death of the doom which has hung over the fleet since the beginning of the series. A Laura Roslin saw on the ferry, death itself is only the beginning....!
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Re: Cylon Frailty
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 1:41 AMCavil's spiritual? You do know he is the only Cylon model who doesn't follow the One God, or any God for that matter.
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Re: Cylon Frailty
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:07 AMCavil's the most radical thinker of the bunch though-- in terms of not taking anything for granted and even being the first Cylon model to believe that imitating the human form-- and waging war on humanity was a mistake-- though I must admit, given his earlier stances, I'd like to know more about his present motivations. -
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Re: Cylon Frailty
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 9:57 PMCavil's the opposite of spiritual. He's a nuts-n-bolts man. He's practical and cold-reasoning to such a level that he's arguably the last "pure" Cylon model.
I'm not so sure that evolution is Humanity's goal in this show. It's pretty apparent to me that they aren't into evolving at all, and keep running into the same nasty outcomes time after time, and are breaking apart from the sheer cognitive dissonance of their ordeal. It takes Cylons and their threat of total annihilation to get them to change any of their ways. Look at Kara.
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Re: Cylon Frailty
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 5:51 AMCavil -- recognized the fallacy in Cylon religious dogma that lead them on their crusade to eradicate humanity, instead of focusing on being the machines that they were....
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Re: Cylon Frailty
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 11:12 AM>Cavil's ... the first Cylon model to believe that ... waging war on humanity was a mistake<
Ummm actually, he was just the harbinger. If you take out the scene where he announces it to Helo and Kara, then he's got a great consistency of superiority towards humans and a general drive to wipe them out.
Caprica and Boomer had to convince the other models that interfering with humanity was a mistake.
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